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The Portable Greek Historians: The Essence of Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, Polybius by Moses I. Finley

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After thoroughly reading the excerpted selections for these four writers, I can say the my decision to skim it originally was the correct one. As I am less familiar than I would like with the historical background, a lot of this sailed over my head I would have liked more footnotes and maps , but I appreciated the raw approach of Herodotus, the critical attitude of all of them to other writers not that this stopped them making stuff up themselves and the closing passage from Polybius comparing the Roman constitution with the constitutions of less successful states he singles out Rome's institutionalisation of religion as a key factor. All pages are intact, and the cover is intact. The history he relayed wasn't told I felt in a manner that is easy to digest, having too many names introduced in too short a space and then concluding a commentary on the events while they still feel they could be developed further. Herodotus was the most enjoyable to read, which is of course probably related to the fact that he made the most up. There is much more that can be added to the question of the Roman empire's unusually long span of existence, but nonetheless he presented his points well and I felt I learned something about the material. Also, the imitation of the Homeric style by these historians where the narrative is interrupted by a long speech seems massively overdone by Thucydides, making him much more difficult to establish a rhythm with than Herodotus.

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The Portable Greek Historians: The Essence of Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, Polybius (Viking Portable Library)

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I enjoy reading about Classical history, so hearing from the mouth of those of the time is especially interesting. Possible ex library copy, that’ll have the markings and stickers associated from the library. I can't say either that I found the excerpts from Xenophon's Anabasis to be significantly interesting. If this history is worth knowing about, it ought to be maximally accessible. Spine creases, wear to binding and pages from reading. Xenophon is a soldier turned historian and his writing shows this, with lots about troop movements. The spine may show signs of wear.

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The Portable Greek Historians: The Essence of Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, Polybius by Moses I. Finley

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This is probably about half of The Histories by Herodotus and a third of The History of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides, and while my interest is now sparked to read the rest of Herodotus' work it may be a while if ever that I finish the rest of Thucydides work. Among his works, The World of Odysseus 1954 proved seminal. I enjoy reading about Classical history, so hearing from the mouth of those of the time is especially interesting. His most notable work is The Ancient Economy 1973 , where he argued that status and civic ideology governed the economy in antiquity rather than rational economic motivations. He was e Sir Moses I.

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The Portable Greek Historians: The Essence of Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, Polybius by Moses I. Finley

the portable greek historians the essence of herodotus thucydides xenophon polybius viking portable library

It was thoroughly descriptive concerning the various offices in the Roman world, why they worked better and why their empire is lasting longer and remaining stable over its Greccian counterparts. Herodotus was the most enjoyable to read, which is of course probably related to the fact that he made the most up. Pages can include considerable notes-in pen or highlighter-but the notes cannot obscure the text. Overall a good introduction, and now I can explore what I enjoyed, both in terms of authorship and subject, in more depth. That is only an idle thought, however, from someone with an already fair grasp on archaic diction and some familiarity with the Ancient Greeks and their histories. I felt the intrigue of the book wore off as I continued reading; the more interesting and lucid writings are in the first half of the book and then the number of new names and quick summaries of their contributions become too much and take place too rapidly to retain. The content is good, but the abridgements leave stories feeling unfinished.

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The Greek historians : the essence of Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, Polybius (Book, 1978) [in10.com.br]

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But also, the lack of interest for me was partly the material didn't seem as interesting on its own merit as others of Xenophon's works, such as his Symposium, Apology and Memorable Thoughts of Socrates. That is a fascinating subject in its own right, but not really what I was looking for here. His work is really more of an inquiry into the sayings of locals on past events mostly events their grandparents or great-grandparents witnessed or took part in , so should be understood as much a collection of the true memory of some events as the fantastic hearsay of embellishing villagers. In it, he applied the findings of ethnologists and anthropologists like Marcel Mauss to illuminate Homer, a radical approach that was thought by his publishers to require a reassuring introduction by an established classicist, Maurice Bowra. He invoked the Fifth Amendment and refused to answer. His most notable work is The Ancient Economy 1973 , where he argued that status and civic ideology governed the economy in antiquity rather than rational economic motivations. Bookseller: , Washington, United States Penguin Publishing Group, 1977.

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The portable Greek historians : the essence of Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, Polybius (Book, 1977) [in10.com.br]

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He was born in 1912 in New York City as Moses Israel Finkelstein to Nathan Finkelstein and Anna Katzenellenbogen; died in 1986 as a British subject. Finley was an American and English classical scholar. Here, I wish they included a map so I could follow it all. The history of the ancient Greeks thus recedes from focus, and the reader mainly has to deal with the personalities of the authors, as filtered through the nineteenth century translators. Even if not, the short book introduction and the two page prefaces to each ancient historian certainly could use more detail and context.

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That is only an idle thought, however, from someone with an At some point, it seems to me that twenty-first century translations ought to be widely available for the works of Herodotus, Thucydides, etc. Dust jacket quality is not guaranteed. Unable subsequently to find work in the United States, Finley moved to England, where he taught classical studies for many years at Cambridge University, first as a Reader in Ancient Social and Economic History at Jesus College 1964—1970 , then as Professor of Ancient History 1970—1979 and eventually as Master of Darwin College 1976—1982. Thucydides was drier, and although he supposedly did more fact-checking than Herodotus, there are long speeches sprinkled throughout that he almost certainly took liberty with. Bookseller: , Ohio, United States Penguin Publishing Group, 1977.

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The Portable Greek Historians: The Essence of Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, Polybius (Viking Portable Library)

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Thucydides was drier, and although he supposedly did more fact-checking than Herodotus, there a I had tried to read this book before, and made it through this time. Pages can include limited notes and highlighting, and the copy can include previous owner inscriptions. He was born in 1912 in New York City as Moses Israel Finkelstein to Nathan Finkelstein and Anna Katzenellenbogen; died in 1986 as a British subject. And while I was not already familiar with every military campaign recorded here, I knew enough about ancient wars in general to get a good picture in my mind. I had tried to read this book before, and made it through this time. At ThriftBooks, our motto is: Read More, Spend Less.

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Whatever mix it may be, it is interesting to read. At some point, it seems to me that twenty-first century translations ought to be widely available for the works of Herodotus, Thucydides, etc. However if the excerpts aren't representative of each writer than the fault is with Finley. The language of this volume is nineteenth century English, and as time flows on it only becomes more archaic and unreadable to average twenty first century readers to say nothing of our descendants in the twenty second. This book is mostly devoted the the history of the Persian, Peloponnesian wars and Sicilian campaigns chronicled by Herodotus and Thucydides, with the last hundred pages or so devoted to smaller excerpts from Xenophon and Polybius. Bookseller: , Washington, United States.

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Herodotus, on the other hand, I found to be humorous, lucid, and an enjoyable storyteller. Part of that is it feels like either the selection excludes important information or it is just insufficiently prefaced for a reader to jump in and feel they understand what is going on and what the context is for the events being described. Following the example of Karl Polanyi, Finley argued that the ancient economy should not be analysed using the concepts of modern economic science, because ancient man had no notion of the economy as a separate sphere of society, and because economic actions in antiquity were determined not primarily by economic, but by social concerns. He taught at Columbia University and City College of New York, where he was influenced by members of the Frankfurt School who were working in exile in America. I originally purchased this book when I started college to prepare for my Senior Oral Exam, I skimmed but didn't really retain much of each writer's style save perhaps Herodotus.

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